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>IMO systems should be shipped in "Setup Mode" by default with no keys preinstalled. On first boot which ever OS you decide to install should be able to enroll its keys.

Sounds like browserchoice.eu but even more pointless. For the normies who don't care about what keys they want installed, it doesn't make a difference. For people who want to switch to linux, it also doesn't make a difference because unless they're setting up their computer for the first time, because the windows key would already be installed. The only thing it does is make setting up a new computer marginally easier for one specific case (ie. you want to install a non-windows operating system AND you don't want to dualboot), and ticks off a box for being "vendor agnostic" or whatever.



You are missing the big picture. > The only thing it does is make setting up a new computer marginally easier for one specific case (ie. you want to install a non-windows operating system AND you don't want to dualboot), and ticks off a box for being "vendor agnostic" or whatever.

this is much more important than you realize.


Why? Of all the barriers to "year of the linux desktop", this isn't really one of them, especially with shim loader.


On the contrary. It means only the currently installed OS will ever boot. If you wanted to switch you would enter the bios, clear the keys, then boot into the new system. That's roughly analogous to re-locking the bootloader on a pixel.

Right now to achieve that level of security you have to manually enroll only the keys you want. Have fun with that process.


>Right now to achieve that level of security you have to manually enroll only the keys you want. Have fun with that process.

There will still be the situation with microsoft signing third party bootloaders, because various legitimate system utilities (eg. the kaspersky rescue disk mentioned in the OP) will still need it, and telling users to clear their keys willy-nilly is just going to train users to blindly clear their keys whenever something goes wrong.




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