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The conversation was about essence, and yes I think a torture camp has the same essence as a death camp.

Between Gitmo and Auschwitz, there's an obvious difference in magnitude, but there's no difference in direction; Gitmo evolves into Auschwitz. If you want to stop the next Auschwitz from happening, you have to stop the current Gitmo. The path to Auschwitz runs through normalizing Gitmo as "not that bad because it's just a torture prison. At least it's not a death camp".



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