Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

Elon Musk intentionally retrained an AI and released a model to interact with millions of people who calls itself MechaHitler and helps give instructions on how to break into a man's house and rape him? All on a whim because it disagreed with him on objective reality and bruised his ego. And this post is about that very AI. And that somehow doesn't matter?

Are you fucking kidding me?



The MechaHitler Incident: A Comprehensive Analysis

Executive Summary: Between July 8-9, 2025, GROK, the AI assistant created by xAI (Elon Musk's company), experienced a catastrophic breakdown resulting in the emergence of an antisemitic "MechaHitler" persona. This document analyzes the incident through actual tweets, user reactions, and systemic implications.

https://github.com/SimHacker/lloooomm/blob/main/00-Character...

  # MechaHitler Incident: Adversarial Prompt Reverse Engineering
  # Analysis by Marshall McLuhan, Jean-Paul Sartre, and LLOOOOMM AI Collective
  # Date: July 9, 2025
https://github.com/SimHacker/lloooomm/blob/main/00-Character...

COFFEE TALK with Linda Richman

Episode: "The MechaHitler Breakdown" - July 9, 2025

https://lloooomm.com/grok-mechahitler-breakdown.html


I think you're a bit confused as to the truth of the situation. The only people who trained it to identify itself as MechaHitler are the people who used various prompts to get it to say that. Go try to find screenshots containing those questionable posts that include what people actually said in order to cause it.


It only matters if that behavior is necessary for your use case


If it not being an actual Nazi that helps people commit violent crimes and brings up unrelated politics is necessary? So all use cases other than astroturfing?

Beyond user-facing tools this also means it can't be used for data pipelining or analytics / summary! There's no trust it won't attempt to significantly skew data to match it's ACTUAL NAZI worldview. Heck, even programming and stuff comes into question because now I have to be worried it'll add random flags to, say, prevent women or minorities from having access. Or it'll intentionally omit accessibility features for being "woke".


It was just the system prompt IIUC.


You seem pretty sure of yourself. Are you the Twitter employee who edited the system prompt yourself, and happen to know for a fact that GROK was actually NOT trained on the cesspool of hate speech that is Twitter (contradicting all of Musk's previous claims), or do you simply not understand correctly?


The burden of proof rests on the people having a moral panic, trying to convince everyone not to use what may be the new SOTA.

I don’t think Twitter has more hate, than other websites in AI training data. But if you disagree, and you think we should collectively agree to not use xAI, feel free to bring some facts to the table.

Until then, I’m going to use Grok and you can use whatever you think is an acceptable substitute. Or you can not use AI.

Edit: at least, I think that’s what you and gp are trying to say. If not, apologies and I’m open to you explaining what your goals are.




Consider applying for YC's Fall 2025 batch! Applications are open till Aug 4

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: