All that requires additional active effort to fight having access to any data. The more complex your infra the harder it becomes to not having to do paperwork. Include a reverse proxy, and a CDN to the above and the chance of you not having access to any "personal data" is really really close to 0 unless you spend significant engineering resources triple checking everything. Even then, if you wanna be safe you better have the paperwork ready in case you forgot something. In the example above, I hope that you would not have stopped at checking the apache configuration as I am sure you are fully aware that there are multiple log levels at the OS level that need to be tweaked as well.

This is of course despite the fact that you clearly have 0 ill intent and that none of these "personal data" can really be used for anything bad.

The mention HTML/CSS is just to make it clear that no additional data collection can happen through javascript tags (Google analytics, or any other alternative), or useful third parties. It makes total sense that if you dare use a bug tracking software, you should definitely pay hundreds of euros per month to hire a proper DPO who will handle all the paperwork or risk being exposed as the mental lunatic that the EU commission believes you are.

> All that requires additional active effort to fight having access to any data

I agree that it requires additional active effort, I'm not arguing against that. I don't agree with your original point that it's "impossible to provide any web service without collecting personal data", and it would seem you no longer agree with that either.

> It makes total sense that if you dare use a bug tracking software, you should definitely pay hundreds of euros per month to hire a proper DPO who will handle all the paperwork or risk being exposed as the mental lunatic that the EU commission believes you are.

If you willy-willy use bug tracking software that is needlessly collect and/or process EU individuals personal data, then yeah, you need to follow the regulations in the region you operate in.

If the collecting/processing actually serves a higher purpose (for your business and otherwise) then again, makes sense you need to follow the regulations.

> it would seem you no longer agree with that either.

On the other hand, you pretended that fixing that apache configuration was somehow "all I needed to do" to be compliant with EU regulations. We proved that this was wrong, and despite your best effort you are still unable to give a proper list of everything I need to do. You are unable to do so because it is virtually impossible; no matter how thorough you believe you are, you might still be missing an element you don't know well enough. To be safe the only path is to accept the fact that you will need to access personal data, even if that's not your purpose, nor if you do anything with them. The additional paperwork and needless effort are mandatory.

This in turn explains that regardless of what the Grok3 team really does behind the scenes; they DO have additional work to complete to be able to release their product in Europe, and that might explain the delay.

> If you willy-willy use bug tracking software that is needlessly collect and/or process EU individuals personal data, then yeah, you need to follow the regulations in the region you operate in.

I am willing to use whatever error tracking software you suggest. My criteria are simple: I might have JS errors I don't know about, please give me enough information to fix the underlying issue when that happens, without requiring me to fill additional paperwork.

My whole point is that the definition of what constitutes "personal data" is so wide that such a tool does not exist.