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Hetzner network is complete dog. They also sell you machines that are long should be EOL’ed. No serious business should be using them


What cpu do you think your workload is using on AWS?

GCP exposes their cpu models, and they have some Haswell and Broadwell lithographies in service.

Thats a 10+ year old part, for those paying attention.


I think they meant that Hetzner is offering specific machines they know to be faulty and should have EOLd to customers, not that they use deprecated CPUs.


Thats scary if true, any sources? My google-fu is failing me. :/


It's not scary, it's part of the value proposition.

I used to work for a company that rented lots of hetzner boxes. Consumer grade hardware with frequent disk failures was just what we excepted for saving a buck.


Sorry, I have no idea if this is true. I was just pointing out what the GP was trying to claim.


Most of GCP and some AWS instances will migrate to another node when it’s faulty. Also disk is virtual. None of this applies to baremetal hetzner


Why is that relevant to what I said?


Only relevant if you care about reliability


AWS was working “fine” for about 10 years without live migration, and I’ve had several individual machines running without a reboot or outage for quite literally half a decade. Enough to hit bugs like this: https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=a00092...

Anyway, depending on individual nodes to always be up for reliability is incredibly foolhardy. Things can happen, cloud isn't magic, I’ve had instances become unrecoverable. Though it is rare.

So, I still don’t understand the point, that was not exactly relevant to what I said.


I just cat'ed /proc/cpuinfo on my Hetzner and AWS machines

AWS: E5-2680 v4 (2016)

Hetzner: Ryzen 5 (2019)


Now do hard drives


the hetzner one is a dedicated pcie 4.0 nvme device and wrote at 2.3GB/s (O_DIRECT)

the AWS one is some emulated block device, no idea what it is, other than it's 20x slower


You keep moving the goal posts with these replies.

Hetzner isn't the best provider in the world, but it's also not as bad as you say they are. They're not just renting old servers.


I know serious businesses using Hetzner for their critical workloads. I wouldn’t unless money is tight, but it is possible. I use them for my non critical stuff, it costs so much less.




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