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According to the article, it's supported by every browser except Edge. It will be interesting to see who ultimately ends up making a better IE, Safari or Microsoft. So far, it seems Safari is winning, given the ever growing set of standards they don't support, but maybe this is Edge trying to catch up?


The data at CanIUse.com seems to suggest they're going backward and used to have an installable plugin:

https://caniuse.com/av1

see also:

https://www.thurrott.com/forums/microsoft/windows/thread/you...

Which seems to be claiming the software fallback has been suddenly yanked, temporarily breaking YouTube which fixed it by serving VP9 instead but maybe AV1 hardware decode is still working?


Odd given that Edge is Chromium.


What are the "ever growing set of standards" that Safari doesn't support?


This was discussed here not too long ago. I assume not much has changed since then. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31902707


Most of those that were discussed have been implemented. The new list is here [1].

What you see is that they implement different features with Google obviously wanting the browser to be a full blown OS. So they added things like MIDI support and web pages being able to access the battery.

The problem with many of those features is that they have been shown by researchers to either (a) be insecure or (b) allow web pages to uniquely fingerprint your device. This is obviously an anathema to everything Apple believes in.

[1] https://caniuse.com/?compare=chrome+121,edge+118,safari+17.2...


Firefox is also against many of the hardware APIs that Chrome pushes


So you don't know, but you assume it's the same, so "ever-growing" is just a uninformed slam? If anything the reality is the opposite.


Nothing that is relevant. I use safari across all my devices and I have never had an issue besides very specific things like flashing microcontrollers through a web interface which I had to use chrome for. That’s basically irrelevant for the entire world. Safari is mega efficient and fast and actually cares about your privacy


There was so much hoopla on HN about Chrome abandoning JPEG XL recently while Safari added support for it.


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So a few things here:

1. A fair number of users are gonna use the default browser. You probably want to support those users.

2. iOS users can't download non-WebKit browsers. You probably want to support iOS users.


What is a "real" web browser? One would assume its an application that takes web content and parses it for user display so they can use it to browse the web...so Edge and Safari would surely be real, right?


Edge and Safari (and Firefox) have reader mode, which automatically makes them better than Chrome.


Because they want something less user hostile than Chrome?




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