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It was not a $69k hospital bill. It was just $2500 for him.

But it sure does make a good headline.



It wasn't 69k either. That's the troll number the hospitals and insurance companies use to shock people and justify the actual high prices.


But when they send you that bill, it is a legally valid debt that you owe them.

The fact that you can negotiate large debts does not change that


No, they mark it down as $69,000 and then show the "insurance negotiated" rate underneath. They do this regardless of whether or not you are paying out on of pocket. If you are uninsured they do the same thing but the discount is for "self pay" or whatever. It just seems kind of stupid but most people just see the insurance rate that applies to them when they are paying out of pocket in the deductible range. It's propaganda/manipulation.


Sure... Who is the hospital billing $69k to, the insurance? Also $2,500 is still a lot.


Nobody. Not even the insurance company paid that.


Not a completely unreasonable headline, considering that an uninsured person would get a bill for something probably closer to $69k than $2.5k. I've gotten one of those bills before, and IMO the insanity of it cannot be pointed out enough times.


This is true and the system is incredibly wasteful and dumb, but to be clear those uninsured people would immediately negotiate it down to about $250 by calling and saying "wtf am I supposed to do with this bill".


No. What really happens is that the hospital does a check on whether the uninsured person has any assets.

If yes >> garnish the assets. This can include your business, your house, whatever you have.

If no >> ok they're poor, let's negotiate it down to the limit of what they can pay.

If they're really, really poor, it gets written off... and the other uninsured people bear the cost of that writeoff. That's one of the major reasons that the costs for uninsured people are so crazy; the hospital system is allowed to do that.


Or they just put you on a payment plan for the rest of your life.


Well where did that 69k number come from? Seems like the person at fault here is person that generated that ludicrous number that's completely BS.


Trivializing the cost as "just $2500" speaks more about your privilege than it does anything else.


It has nothing to do with privilege or anything other than basic relativity. $2.5k is “just $2.5k” relative to $69k for everyone.


You can get an x-ray at urgent cares for around $75.




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