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Back in the day, not so far from the Minitel days, French was the lingua franca of diplomacy, and spoken all over the world.

English was the language of commerce and technology, but French being the language of diplomacy and intercommunication it would be a game changer on teleco.

But Minitel was a bit like an enclosed shell, like Gopher.

Now Gopher is the opposite, nobody needs a license to host a server.



The switch was somewhere in the 70s. For every two English words I hear on TV now there was one in French and one in my language (Italian). Anyway the exposition to foreign languages was much lower because there was no Internet. English got an advantage that French never had in the 20th century. And Hollywood, UK/USA music, etc. All of them larger than their French counterparts.


The use of French in diplomacy was primarily an outgrowth of it having been the court language of continental Europe. You also had dominant languages for other purposes--for certain fields of science, you sort of needed to know German.

But as the world increasingly globalized, there were a lot of forces to have a fairly universal language. And between the once huge British Empire and the industrial dominance of the US post-WWII, that language naturally became English.


Before WWII French was certainly considered the most important foreign language in continental Europe and English eventually became prevalent only after. (I vividly remember my grandma being somewhat disappointed that we were taught English as the first foreign language in school, instead of French.)

It may not be that far fetched to imagine a 1930s internet ("The League of Thoughts") coming somewhat naturally in French.


That's an excellent name! I think about William Gibson's novels about Babbage's machine being hooked up to a telegraph resulting in an earlier "internet" revolution.


My "ligue des pensées" (LDP), AKA "Gedankenbund", AKA "League of Thoughts" (LoT) is certainly based on storing analog signals on refreshing electrostatic drums and projecting the image (images!) on CRTs. There's a nice railway print of the futuristic main hub of the British part of the LoT at New Castle, exposing the stylized cylindrical shape of the storage drums in its main tower (nicely lit in electric blue by high the voltage discharge of the drums inside). A delicate chapter in the history of the LDP is the niche of the "valses roses", which inevitably evolved into a major business. In many countries some opposition of mostly moral objection arose, especially in Germany, where a rising NSDAP feared for the health of the populus and for the sanity of German men who were exposed to the finer details of the anatomy of foreign women, which in turn lead to its smashing defeat in the 1933 election… :-)

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Edit, on the technology of the LoT: This was some of a joint European effort. A crucial part was the storage of the analogue image signal on a continuously refreshed electrostatic drum, invented by Dr Ludwig Chevenmüller in the early 1920s. A major breakthrough was then the contribution of a young Tommy Flowers, who came up with a way to combine discrete signals suitable for relay-based automatic dialling with the analog signals that provided the content. In a somewhat parallel strain Thierry du Pont du Lac invented his "lecteur discret", which did much the same for character based signals in Baudot code, which was eventually combined in the vertical blank of the analog image signal and stored on the terminal side on a second drum, to be superimposed by a tiny typesetting machine and an array of electrostatic lenses onto the analog Chevenmüller image. (Alternatively, the combined image could be redirected onto a third drum, from which it could be printed using a technique similar to stencils. Seasoned users of the LoT may remember the typical smell quite well.) But the LoT only really took of, when BASF came up with a way to compress the Chevenmüller signal into rapid bursts, which enabled the rather astounding speed of the network.


That's why I said "pretty close" to Minitel.


> not so far from the Minitel days, French was the lingua franca of diplomacy, and spoken all over the world.

What a ridiculous claim. The language spoken for Diplomacy is spoken by diplomats and has virtually nothing to do with what the population speaks. Just like Latin was the language of Religion and Science in Middle-Ages, but certainly not spoken by everyone else.


A classic problem with english translations of War and Peace is what to do about the languages? The main characters start out the novel speaking french with each other and russian with the servants (similar to the role of english for elite households in 2020 india?).

The costume drama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2-fkZ-0Blw claims that in the seventeenth century, the aristocracy would've been familiar with enough with their tenants' dances (indeed, preferring them to french court customs) to perform them themselves, but no matter what the historical accuracy of that portrayal, Tolstoy's take on the nineteenth century situation was different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_and_Peace#Language .

https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/Война_и_мир_(Толстой)/Том_I/Ч...


Not ridiculous. In the late 70's, everyone's second language in Spain (except OFC the ones speaking Iberian latin dialects or Basque having Spanish itself as a second one) for example wasn't English, but French.

If you wanted a better future (lots of people headed to France to work), you would learn French to make a good chunk of money and cheap goods, period.


> In the late 70's, everyone's second language in Spain (except OFC the ones speaking Iberian latin dialects or Basque having Spanish itself as a second one) for example wasn't English, but French.

1- Spain is a neighbor to France, so it's hardly surprising that French is used a lot in the first place.

2- Spain represents less than 1% of the World population, so it's hardly a proof that French was used all over the world in the 70s.


French is used across the world _today_, so it's not that much of a stretch to imagine that it was also used across the world in the 1970s.

By the Wikipedia numbers [1], French is the fifth most spoken language in the world by total number of speakers, yet only fifteenth by native speakers.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_num...


Spain and the rest of the French colonies all over the world. And as I said, French was seen as a language from people in high positions.




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