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That joke doesn't support the claim that police aren't a force for good, only that they have been a force for less good for blacks. Of course no one is better off by "abolishing the police" (unless you're a fan of a global dark age).


this argument always comes up and its complete and utter bullshit. Please think about what you say for more than a half second before you say it.

Police are not that effective, society does not completely collapse in their absence, and there needs to be a cost-benefit analysis done for even things that obviously seem good. When police murder and assault people regularly, using military equipment, that's a serious cost to take into consideration.

Overpolicing has serious consequences, and the evidence suggests it actually increases crime. When NYC cops stopped proactive policing, _serious crime decreased_.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/nyc-cops-did-a-work-...


> This argument always comes up and its complete and utter bullshit. Please think about what you say for more than a half second before you say it.

"I'm not here in good faith" is an even shorter way of saying the same thing.




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