> You have the user's execution rights only; you don't have root access.
That is also what I said - code execution. Like the git RCE gives you. But, it would be rather redundant to use code execution as a local user to obtain code execution as a local user, no? With .bashrc, it doesn't matter how new your git is, there's no reason to exploit it.
Also, privilege escalation bugs.
> This is true of any program the user runs. The fix is for the user to not run untrusted code. Trusted code should not be modifying .bashrc without the user's knowledge.
Exactly my point. If the .bashrc has been modified in an evil way, as you suggested, you're screwed because someone is executing code as your user, which is usually exactly what they need. Add one privilege escalation, and they can do whatever they want, but that's not really necessary, depending on what they want to do.
In essence, if I can write to a file of my liking on your machine as your user, then I have code execution rights as your user (potentially with a time delay, depending on what I tamper with).
> And the user can unmask them just as easily. It's not at all the same as having root access.
Exactly, like installing a different version of git with homebrew and masking the old one. Also, privilege escalation bugs. I think you're forgetting how common they are. A decent set of privilege escalation bugs is part of any decent hackers toolkit.
If someone modifies .bashrc, as you initially suggested ("Not really, they just need to be able to modify a single file owned by the user (.bashrc), or just the current shell session (again, with a variable owned by the user)"), then the git RCE is redundant, as you already have obtained code execution on the machine.
Code execution how? How are you going to execute code on my machine if you don't have physical access to it? That's why the RCE makes a difference.
> it would be rather redundant to use code execution as a local user to obtain code execution as a local user, no?
As I understood the comment that started this subthread, it was talking about using a remote code execution vulnerability to modify .bashrc. Nobody, as far as I can tell, in this discussion is talking about having local (i.e., physical) access to the machine.
The original comment was about circumventing a users measure to use a new git from homebrew by having the bad guy modify .bashrc. If the bad guy has that ability, he does not need an RCE. My argument being that using homebrew to install a nee git is fine. The counterarguments being "evil applications" and "evil .bashrc", ehich already means that you're executing the bad guys code.
That is also what I said - code execution. Like the git RCE gives you. But, it would be rather redundant to use code execution as a local user to obtain code execution as a local user, no? With .bashrc, it doesn't matter how new your git is, there's no reason to exploit it.
Also, privilege escalation bugs.
> This is true of any program the user runs. The fix is for the user to not run untrusted code. Trusted code should not be modifying .bashrc without the user's knowledge.
Exactly my point. If the .bashrc has been modified in an evil way, as you suggested, you're screwed because someone is executing code as your user, which is usually exactly what they need. Add one privilege escalation, and they can do whatever they want, but that's not really necessary, depending on what they want to do.
In essence, if I can write to a file of my liking on your machine as your user, then I have code execution rights as your user (potentially with a time delay, depending on what I tamper with).
> And the user can unmask them just as easily. It's not at all the same as having root access.
Exactly, like installing a different version of git with homebrew and masking the old one. Also, privilege escalation bugs. I think you're forgetting how common they are. A decent set of privilege escalation bugs is part of any decent hackers toolkit.
If someone modifies .bashrc, as you initially suggested ("Not really, they just need to be able to modify a single file owned by the user (.bashrc), or just the current shell session (again, with a variable owned by the user)"), then the git RCE is redundant, as you already have obtained code execution on the machine.